Andrew Warner

If he is an animal killer, I bet that you will now endorse him. Since you endorse PETA and since they kill animals ....


You still have not denounced PETA.

Please Yossarian... your PETA conspiracy theory is getting old. They've put some animals to sleep to end their suffering (the two people you're talking about acted on behalf of themselves and not the org), Romney kills them for fun.

There's a big difference. Ask anyone who works in animal shelters if they're having fun when they have to put animals down.

Some animal?!! SOME ANIMALS?!!! These were healthy pets (cats and dogs) also - the two people in Virginia killed only 96 animals and were caught because they were dumping them in dumpsters. PETA has killed over 14,000 PETS since 1998!!!! And their sicko president agrees with this philosophy.

Also PETA is not an animal shelter. They are not set up to shelter animals. They don't believe in the concept of PETS!!!!!

Here are some quotes from the president of PETA Ingrid Newkirk" (http://www.activistcash.com/organization_quotes.cfm/oid/21)

“In the end, I think it would be lovely if we stopped this whole notion of pets altogether.”
— Newsday

“Pet ownership is an absolutely abysmal situation brought about by human manipulation.”
— Harper's


Call any real Pet Shelter and say "hey, I'm from PETA can I come and rescue some pets?" - guess what they are going to say?

PETA is the same as Rommey in my book, but you're going to see what you want to see (it's called compromise of one's own values).

Yossarian,

Pet ownership isn't a good thing for animals. Humans basically engineered animals so that they are dependant and domesticated. Then they are incapable of happily living in the wild and put to sleep by the boatloads because people decide they don't want them any more.

Obviously it's not this generation's fault, but that doesn't change the fact that it's brought about by "human manipulation."

Who is that good for?

i don't agree with killing pets to solve the problem if that is what you are suggesting PETA does. If that is what they are into, pleaes show me the section on the web site that describes that philosophy. Otherwise, you are just giving out of context quotes and drawing strange conclusions.

14,000 animals since 1998? The local SPCA puts down more than that in two years. And trust me, they don't do it for fun.

PETA advocates responsible pet-ownership. They don't urge members to put their animals to slepe. Stop being ridiculous.

Responsible pet owernship, at this point in life, is a great thing – just get your animals from the shelters and not from the pet stores.

Do you even stop and think before you type?

"Pet ownership isn't a good thing for animals"

There are HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of pets and pet owners who would disagree with that asinine statement. (the number of pets in America in
2001 was 164,836,000––excluding another 49,000,000 pet fish). By comparison the
human population was 277,017,622. U.S. Census Bureau, 2001 Supplementary Survey
Profile, http://www.census.gov/acs/www/Products/Profiles/Single/2001/SS01/Tabular/
010/01000US1.htm )

"Humans basically engineered animals so that they are dependent and domesticated."

There was nothing basic about the symbiotic bond between early man and dog. Some experts have even stated that man and dog evolved together.

By your logic, we should also stop having children because of the problems of child abuse and neglect. So we should stop a mutual beneficial relation that humans have had with pets (look it up - the life expectance of both groups, pets and pet owners, are higher than non-pet owners and feral animals) just because PETA says so? AND yes, they say so.

In addition, the difference between, the SPCA and PETA is that the SPCA at least TRIES to find homes for abandoned and abused pets. PETA doesn't believe in pets and they kill pets! Why is this such a hard concept for you?

Lastly. what do you mean - "Responsible pet owernship, at this point in life, is a great thing"? Do you mean in 2007? Do you mean 20-nothing college student who will soon be living on his parent's couch? Do you mean spring time? Just wondering

Yossarian,

Your reading comprehension needs a lot of work. Your misunderstanding of the English language makes it very difficult to have a conversation with you.

You act as if I do not advocate pet ownership when I said that responsible pet ownership (as long as animals are received from a shelter) is the best, if not only, option.

And no, early man probably did not have a symbiotic relationship with wolves, cougars, coyotes, lions, and so on. The only forms we can live with have been created and tailored to our needs (as indicated by Newkirk). Obviously there are plenty of wild (domestic) cats and dogs that are put to sleep or starve to death – their inability to survive in the wild is the fault of our engineering and our rapid development as humans (cars, roads and the like).

So essentially you have no point... And your analogy with children was just absurdly inaccurate. We weren't even talking about animal abuse. We're talking about the legions of animals that are put to sleep and how that is a result of pet-ownership gone wrong – as far as I'm aware, no such thing is occurring with human babies?

By "this point in life" I am not referring to my life. I am referring to this point in evolutionary life. Meaning (because I know you need things explained to you very simply), we've created pets, we need to deal with our creation responsibly.

Yossarian,

You are either entirely full of shit or you are just arguing for the sake of arguing. I'm not sure which at this point.

I do volunteer work for our local animal shelter and we do have to put animals down because the reality of the situation is that overcrowding causes greater problems for our dogs, plus we have a very difficult time trying to raise enough money needed to care for these animals who ended up at our shelter through no fault of their own.

I'm sure that PETA is well aware of these conditions and that is why they are opposed to "no kill" shelters. Believe me when I say that none of us takes any joy in having to end the lives of these poor beings-- which makes us ten-thousand times better than the likes of Romney.

Why don't you quit wasting your time trolling internet blogs and adopt a friend from a humane society yourself or put some of you flaming time to work trying to assist a local shelter improve their conditions instead wasting all your energy bashing PETA.