Andrew Warner

Should have never been derailed?

From Osborne's CityBeat blog entry:

"City Link supporters include State Rep.-elect Dale Mallory, attorney and conservative GOP activist Christopher Finney, attorney and Hamilton County Democratic Party Chair Tim Burke, lobbyist Dick Weiland and a religious group affiliated with County Commissioner Phil Heimlich."

Sure. What a group of philanthropists .

You know, a good friend of mine once went off about how bad any form of religion is for society.

I wonder what he would think about all these religious folks using CityLink as a way to propagandize the unfortunate...

You know,

A good friend of mine once told me that an idea should be judged on its own and is not subject to its creator.

What a wise man he was.

No matter what kind of slime is behind it, a place where the less fortunate can get some help is a good thing.

Another "philanthropist" in this CityLink nest is the commercial real estate mogul, Neil Sundermann. Neil wears many hats in this scheme, from scouting out properties, turning his nose up at other suitable parcels, serving on some ministry board at the Montgomery Community Church, which is one of the supporting groups of this venture, and, Neil is the go-to man for businesses & commercial ventures interested in jumping in the CityLink pool.

For CityLink touted as a place for the less fortunate, don't count on these down & out people to stay in one place. They are one free CityLink bus token from your community to break into your car to steal the change in the cup holder, turn on your outside faucet to clean up, to sleeping on your porch, running with the prostitutes, engaging in drug activity & public drunkeness.

We've already have a glut of criminals from the Cleveland-Cuyahoga County floating around Cincinnati & CityLink will draw them from Dayton, Columbus, Toledo, Youngstown & points in between.

We've got enough human services social programs in this city who claim they can make miracles. They're all appearing at a City-sponsored public hearing near you, begging for their fair share of the dollars.

I'm so sick and tired of non believers acting as if the word religion is like a blanket that is one size fits all, There are some people who genuinely care and are concerned with those less fortunate among us. There are also some who want to pull the ladder up and think they got there all by themselves ie. Clarence Thomas style. Some of those in opposition of helping others are a few paychecks and a job away from being in the position of alot of those in need of assistance.
It sickens me the attitude of those only interested in earthly riches and largesse, some of you need to bow down and be humbled because your too puffed up.
Hopefully individuals can get help and some of the root causes can be ministered to and lives can be changed. Families can be reconciled and healing can begin. For those that have religionphobia be glad that good people want to make a difference.
Remember when you pull the ladder up just pray you can find it when you need to escape from your perfect world.

"I'm so sick and tired of non believers acting as if the word religion is like a blanket that is one size fits all,"

I'm so sick and tired of religious people acting like they have the market cornered on caring and being concerned.

Hopefully when/if CityLink is built, you won't waste people's time by "ministering" to them. Hopefully they will be taught something useful instead – something real that will change their lives for the better (like how to read, write, and look after their money).

"For those that have religionphobia be glad that good people want to make a difference."

Please. Religious people just do good things because they think there is some guy in the sky keeping score of their lives.

But yes. Kudos to good people who do good things, regardless of their motivation. Shame on you though for knocking logical, loving, non-believers.

CityLink stands to be a propaganda machine for new-age non-denominational religions like Crossroads and Horizons.

It will also be their feel-good for the month, when some rich person volunteers for an hour, or something.

Most people want to help those less fortunate, but when you look at the crooked lawyers, lobbyists, failed politicians, and financiers you have to wonder what's the motivation.

We should go down the list and talk about these "good christians" and what they have done to "help" the poor.

Tim Burke likes to take old ladies houses and give them to big developers using emminent domain.

Phil Heimlich overturned the voters will and sold Drake in a no-bid contract to his freinds and donors at the Health Alliance. It was valued at $100-150 million and they paid $30 million.

Dick Weiland is a lobbyist that slithers behind the scenes at City Hall and has a criminal record, though he's doing "charitable" work now.

Chris Finney the famous ass slapper is a crooked lawyer and bussiness partner of Phil Heimlich. He was in on the Drake scam and several of Heimlichs schemes.

Ther's Dale for Sale Mallory who was impeached from his community council for trying to ram this thing through while he had an undisclosed $$$ interest in this.

I won't touch the big dog Carl that goes to church with Phil at Crossroads because he's too powerful to talk about.

These guys aren't concerned about the poor. They have their own self interests in mind as usual.

Like Help America Vote, Leave No Child Left Behind, Clear Skies and Healthy Forest Intiatives, you can put a bow that says Jesus on it, but it's still just a shit sandwhich that's supposed to feed us all.

You seem to have a dismissive attitude towards so-called "urban pioneers," but aren't you one of the people who is always saying people should live in the city instead of the suburbs? I guess there is probably some way to fit those together, but it seems a bit inconsistent. So they should live in urban neighborhoods, just not certain ones?

I love people living in the city, Chris. I am dismissive of the term "urban pioneer," and the take-over mentality that often comes along with it.

I encourage all people to live in urban neighborhoods and to open up businesses and social services in urban neighborhoods.

The idea of "settling" a neighborhood by kicking people out (something that was discussed in detail on the Beacon) is what I was scoffing out.

I support your good intentions. Some direction is needed, however, in gaining community support. Have you ever heard the criticism of "outside do-gooders"? In addition, gaining the support and cooperation of EXISTING social service agencies may be helpful. I've lived and/or worked in the inner-city for 25+ years. I'll contact your named supporters to try to learn more from them.